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American Wrestling Federation Magazine (A.W.F.M.) sat down with three
unique leaders in A.W.F. history: Caleb Beagle, the current A.W.F.
President; Anthony Tech, former Senior Board member; and Mike Young,
A.W.F. Head Referee Emeritus.
A.W.F.M. - Greetings gentlemen.
Mr. Beagle - Greetings.
Mr. Tech - Good afternoon.
Mr. Young - Hello.
A.W.F.M. - We appreciate you taking time out of your busy schedules to
meet with us for this interview. Let's start off with October FunFest
2011; why aren't you posting the results of that card?
Mr. Beagle - Why should we? Should we forever let Tim steal our ideas,
formats, and other things we have done or are doing to further our
organization?
Mr. Tech - Yeah, and have Tim claim credit for it like it was his own?
Mr. Young - I have no comment.
A.W.F.M. - Based on those responses, can we assume then that there
will be no preview nor results given until the matter with Mr.
Balderramos and his AWF is resolved?
Mr. Beagle - Our organization is for our members and affiliates and
not a big enough organization that we need to worry about "posting"
what happens within our organization.
Mr. Tech - (looking at Mr. Beagle) Still burning from Tim's last theft,
eh (referring to the tier system - ed. note)?
Mr. Young - I can throw Tim farther than I can trust him.
A.W.F.M. - The following list of questions were submitted by Triple-G
by their staff and readers. They did apologize for any redundancy,
but we will ask all of them so as to address any one persons
particular concerns.
Mr. Tech - Go ahead.
A.W.F.M. - (for Triple-G): In Balderamos’ last podcast, it sounded
like Caleb Beagle had intended to join but was a no-show. Can you
explain what happened?
Mr. Beagle - I informed him of my desire to join him in his podcast
and asked for his 'consent' to do so. When he responded he told me
that he was intending to hold his podcast at 2200 MST. I then replied
that I work at 0200hrs and would not be able to make that and asked if
he would consider an earlier time. I received no response, and he
went ahead and did his podcast in the middle of the night.
Mr. Tech - I don't know the whole story. I had heard that there were
some technical issues. Beyond that, I couldn't comment. But I am
curious as to why he would do it so late at night.
Mr. Young - I haven't heard Tim's podcast, so I don't know what was
said. So I have no comment for now.
A.W.F.M. - (for Triple-G): Why do you believe, after saying he wanted
to “combine dates” on C.D. Destroyer’s A.W.F. World Title reign,
President Balderamos decided instead to use his “emergency powers” to
strip him of the title?
Mr. Beagle - Mr. Balderamos can say whatever he wants. My character's
"title reign" in our organization is beyond any control by Mr.
Balderamos.
Mr. Tech - And Tim accuses us of 'flip-flopping' on issues. (laughs)
Mr. Young - I have no idea what Tim is thinking.
A.W.F.M. - (for Triple-G): What is C.D. Destroyer’s reaction to
having been stripped of the title?
Mr. Beagle - Stripped of this title? (holding up the A.W.F. World
Title) I think if he wants to attempt to take this Title from me, then
he can try the same way everyone else does and step in into the ring
(under A.W.F. Rules and Regulations) and try.
Mr. Tech - I laughed. Tim's comments have no bearing on us. And what
do you mean "your Title"?
Mr. Young - (laughs) You guys! We all know Tim will never step back
into an A.W.F. ring and face either of you. As Ken said, Tim likes to
get his Titles through legislation, not perspiration. (all laugh)
A.W.F.M. - (for Triple-G): Will the Senior Board (Balderamos, Tech
and Young) start working together? Why or why not?
Mr. Beagle - Our Senior board works well together. Mr. Balderamos is
not a member of our organization, nor in any way a part of our Board.
Mr. Tech - Neither Mike [Mr. Young - ed. note] nor I are on the
A.W.F. Senior Board.
Mr. Young - I've been retired from the A.W.F. for ten-plus years now.
I won't work with Tim.
A.W.F.M. - (for Triple-G): In Balderamos’ words, everything that your
group has done “comes back to T.A. Starfire” and “keeping him from [a
claim to the world title].” Your comments.
Mr. Beagle - Everything is always about Tim (or his character), we
aren't preventing anything. We are simply maintaining the true history
of the American Wrestling Federation so it is not tainted by someone's
incredible lack of integrity.
Mr. Tech - Look, Tim had a ring made to 'commemorate' his victory over
Phantom. And like that ring, Tim's claims to a legitimate victory
over me are equally hollow.
Mr. Young - Wow, he had a ring made? Maybe Tim should spend more time
and energy on getting a therapist instead of trying to change history.
(all laugh)
A.W.F.M. - (for Triple-G): We have noticed that the Starfire-Phantom
video is no longer coming up. Is that your group’s doing? If so,
how
did you get it taken down?
Mr. Beagle - That was handled entirely by Mr. Tech. Neither myself nor
the A.W.F. Board had anything to do with it. By the time I learned of
this, Mr. Tech had already removed the video.
Mr. Tech - Yep, that was my doing. This was done because I own the
copyright on that video. Additionally, that posting violated YouTube
Privacy Policy.
Mr. Young - I wasn't involved in that, so I have no comment.
A.W.F.M. - (for Triple-G): Assuming your contention for taking down
the video (if you are responsible) is due to copyright issues, why
haven’t the other A.W.F. videos been taken down? [The other videos we
have seen are a match with Phantom and Crusader and two "more recent
matches" with T.A. Starfire and Danger Ranger. - this was
clarification provided by Triple-G - ed. note.]
Mr. Beagle - I believe Mr. Tech is better able to answer this question.
Mr. Tech - I also own the copyright to the Phantom - Crusader match;
and it has been taken down. That video also violated YouTube's
Privacy Policy. The truth is that all videos shot at the Tech
residence, at Bellamy Field House, EAFB and various other videos shot
in and around Rapid City and the Black Hills are copyrighted to me,
Anthony R. Tech. The videos not copyrighted to me include Mr.
Balderramos' videos shot at Ft. Stewart, GA, and in the basement of
the Balderramos residence in Rapid City, SD. The videos for NCWA and
NAWA, I believe, are copyrighted to Mr. Tim Balderramos. The videos
that Mr. Balderramos posted are [unauthorized] copies and should be
either returned to me or destroyed.
Mr. Young - Wow, Tim's still had a copy of those old matches. I
thought we had already taken them away.
Mr. Tech - I thought so too, but I shouldn't be surprised at Tim's desperation.
A.W.F.M. - (for Triple-G): Why don’t you just let T.A. Starfire have
his moral victory, like giving him at least one title reign, to move
on?
Mr. Beagle - I will not compromise either my integrity nor the
integrity of the A.W.F., its members or affiliates to placate the
wounded pride and sad performances of a single individual.
Mr. Tech - This isn't a moral issue. It's a historical matter and I
don't think we should compromise our integrity so Tim can feel good
about himself. We gave "tiny" (Jack "tiny" McQuire -
ed. note) an
honorary Title reign and Tim had a fit about it. If I was just going
to start giving A.W.F. World Title reigns away - I would at least give
them to those who deserve them, like Magic Man. And I honestly
believe that Tim would not "move on".
Mr. Young - (Looking at Mr. Tech) I'm with you. How is this a moral
issue? And we did try to give him a Title reign, he just cheated
during the match and had that win stripped away.
A.W.F.M. - (for Triple-G): Are there plans to join Balderamos live in
a future podcast? Why or why not?
Mr. Beagle - If he decides to have a podcast during a time I can
attend without undo duress then I would be happy to join. There would
be conditions of course.
Mr. Tech - I don't see any benefit in joining Tim during one of his
podcasts. Besides, our A.W.F. President, Mr. Caleb Beagle, has the
matter well in hand.
Mr. Young - I'm not joining Tim for anything. I see no reason to.
A.W.F.M. - (for Triple-G): After getting a chance to view the “Boston
crab” video, The Take had suggested that Balderamos may have a point
in that nothing the referee did, in Balderamos’ words, “rise to the
level” of deciding the match. Further, assuming your group is behind
it being taken down, one could suggest the motivation for taking it
down is to “hide something.” Your comments?
Mr. Beagle - If you shot someone and they die, does it matter "what
level" your intent was? A violation of rules and regulations is a
violation. In any case our (at that time) Head Referee made a decision
and that is final.
Mr. Tech - Which result does Tim want to go with: the decision of
then- Head Referee Mike Young which tossed the match due to poor
officiating, or Tim's decision to have the match continue after the
referee asked him what he should do when he found rocks in the ring?
(The match ended in a time-limit draw - ed. note)
Mr. Young - Caleb made mention of Tim comparing this to Super Bowl 40.
Really Tim? The worst officiated game in Super Bowl history?
The
head referee was fired after that game. Because of it every touchdown
is now reviewed before it is given credit. Saying that Tim, gives me
new insight into your character. This is just like his apology
videos.
A.W.F.M. - (for Triple-G): Is it really too much to ask to “throw
Starfire a bone” over something that happened 20-plus years ago?
Mr. Beagle - Then have to listen to him for another 20 years saying
something along the lines of, "finally they admit their lies and
deceit. I have said it all along, blah, blah, blah." No thank you. My
integrity will remain intact.
Mr. Tech - We threw Tim a bone 20-plus years ago. The problem is that
Tim was caught cheating during that match and the decision was
reversed.
Mr. Young - Why should we? If it's such a minor matter, as you are
trying to lead us to believe, then maybe Tim should just accept the
fact that he couldn't get a legitimate win over Tony.
A.W.F.M. - (for Triple-G): What if “throwing Starfire a bone” were to
finally put an end to all this? Would you consider it? Why or why
not?
Mr. Beagle - I've already answered this.
Mr. Tech - In the last couple podcasts Tim has used sound bites that
basically gave me the impression that no matter what, that this is not
over and that it will never end.
Mr. Young - Yeah, we could buy Tim a box of Milk-Bones, and he would
still complain. (all laugh)
A.W.F.M. - (for Triple-G): Considering the legacy of Phantom,
particularly in the “classic” era, what truly significant impact would
there having T.A. Starfire credited with an official win over him
during that time?
Mr. Beagle - How many times are you going to ask the same question?
Changing a few words here and there does not change the answer I have
given several times already.
Mr. Tech - (Looking at Mr. Beagle) Hey, they did warn us that there
would be redundancy in the questions. Giving Tim "credit" with
an
official win would deny those that actually DID get a win over me.
Mr. Young - Would this be the time to use the "[pair of o*****s]"
joke?
(all begin laughing.)
A.W.F.M. - (for Triple-G): Why do you play into [Balderamos’] games,
anyway? Just ignore him and let him “cry to nobody.” Your
comments?
Mr. Beagle - As far as I am concerned, he can say what ever the hell
he wants as long as he doesn't involve our organization, its
affiliates, or members in a negative way. And frankly put, telling people
he owns me [like a slave] makes me want to handle him personally.
Mr. Tech - We were doing that until he started his podcasts and
violating copyrights and privacy policies. If he could ever learn to
keep his mouth shut, none of this would happen. The problem is that
Tim is so insecure, that he needs validation from others to feel
accepted.
Mr. Young - Nice analysis, Tony. Maybe it's just Tim's psyche that is
his biggest personal flaw. There is no real need to broadcast the
events of a backyard fed unless you have "issues".
A.W.F.M. - (for Triple-G): Listening to the last podcast, Balderamos
seems to want to start focusing on a “compromise” about the “Boston
crab” match. Any chance of a compromise regarding that match? Why
or
why not?
Mr. Beagle - Really?? Can we move to a different question. There is no
need to repeat yourself.
Mr. Tech - Yeah, I'm not going to repeat myself on this one again, either.
Mr. Young - Not going to happen. Between, what, two different A.W.F.
Presidents and three different Board of Reviews, we keep getting the
same result each time on those same three matches of Tim's? Didn't
Einstein make a comment about repeating the same thing again and again
and expecting a different result as the definition of insanity?
A.W.F.M. - (for Triple-G): As Balderamos suggested, why not “break
away” and have your group start with a clean history, etc. if your
group truly wants nothing to do with Balderamos’ AWF?
Mr. Beagle - We did and have maintained OUR history.
Mr. Tech - Actually, he broke away from us and formed the NCWA or the
NAWA. I don't remember which. Scott Martin founded the other one
after he left Tim's group.
Mr. Young - Tim is trying to get us to join his group because no one
else will. Heck, he keeps referring to me as the Head Referee. How
dumb is that?
A.W.F.M. - (for Triple-G): What do you think is the probability for a
“lasting peace” someday in the A.W.F.? Will we one day see all groups
working together, or forever remain separate and at odds? Is there
any chance of “meeting in the middle,” or does a “no quarter”
mentality persist? Explain.
Mr. Beagle - Doesn't seem like it any time soon.
Mr. Tech - There is nothing to be gained from having Mr. Balderramos
be a part of our A.W.F.
Mr. Young - I don't know about that, Tony. He's very good at
demonstrating a bad example. (all laugh)
A.W.F.M. - (for Triple-G): Do you consider the ongoing conflict with
Balderamos’ group “personal?” Why or why not?
Mr. Beagle - For him, I am sure it is.
Mr. Tech - I have no issue with Tim's groups, the NCWA and NAWA. How
and why he thinks he owns or is part of our A.W.F., I don't
understand.
Mr. Young - I'm not going to comment.
A.W.F.M. - (for Triple-G): Can you share what plans your group has
for the A.W.F….and how that might affect the other groups/tiers?
Mr. Beagle - Sadly, no I can not. I have also issued an order within
the A.W.F. that we are not in any circumstance to divulge our
activities to anyone without prior written consent from me.
Mr. Tech - After Tim stole our tier program, we immediately scrapped
it. As for sharing our plans, the only thing that is a given is that
Spring Break Bash 2012 is coming up. Details for that card are also
being withheld until further notice.
Mr. Young - I'm not involved in that, so I have no comment.
A.W.F.M. - (for Triple-G): Are we ever going to see Phantom in action
again? Why or why not?
Mr. Beagle - I can neither confirm nor deny this.
Mr. Tech - I don't think we can say anything without giving away the
result of October FunFest 2012. Regardless, I may be inclined to step
into the ring if the circumstances warrant.
Mr. Young - I have no comment.
A.W.F.M. - (for Triple-G): Comparing the tiers, what would be your
“dream cross-over” match-up and why?
Mr. Beagle - Irrelevant question. We no longer have tiers.
Mr. Tech - Since we don't have tiers anymore, that is a moot question.
However, I would like to see Tim "T.A. Starfire" Balderramos
versus
Caleb "C.D. Destroyer" Beagle. Those two never met in an A.W.F.
match.
Mr. Young - That won't be a match, that'll be a massacre - with Tim
playing [the] role of Custer. (all laugh)
A.W.F.M. - Filtering through all five podcasts so far, what do you
think it is that Mr. Balderramos wants?
Mr. Beagle - No idea. Don't really care what he wants.
Mr. Tech - (looking to Mr. Beagle) He wants what he didn't earn, two
A.W.F. World Title reigns and to be recognized as the first person to
beat Phantom and to be recognized as the "owner" of the A.W.F. and to
be called, "Emperor Timmy". He admitted he liked the sound of
that.
Mr. Young - I haven't listened to them, so I have no comment.
Seriously, though? "Emperor Timmy"?
Mr. Tech - You had to hear it to believe it. I wonder if Tim has a
brain-mouth filter.
Mr. Beagle - That would require a brain.
A.W.F.M. - What do you think it would take for Mr. Balderramos to move on?
Mr. Beagle - A miracle??
Mr. Tech - (Laughs) Sorry, just had an inappropriate thought.
Mr. Young - Yeah....
A.W.F.M. - Does your A.W.F. share a history with Mr. Balderramos' AWF?
Mr. Beagle - No we do not. I have already explained this once.
Mr. Tech - Again it's a case of Tim plagiarizing our history and then
adding his own history so he can be a hero.
Mr. Young - NO! If we did have the same history we wouldn't have
these problems.
A.W.F.M. - What are the differences between your A.W.F.'s history and
Mr. Balderramos'?
Mr. Beagle - That would take way to long to explain here. Besides I
believe that stating it here would simply set him off again when he
reads this.
Mr. Tech - I was going to offer to send a copy of our history, but I
can see Tim causing problems with that as well.
Mr. Young - Look for anything about T.A. Starfire that seems too good
to be true and that will be Tim editing the history to his liking.
A.W.F.M. - Are you trying to protect Phantom/Tech's reputation from
the classic era, as Mr. Balderramos has suggested?
Mr. Tech - Really? No.
Mr. Beagle - I do not have to "protect" a person's reputation.
Phantom's reputation has been earned and he has had a great career
here. It only makes it more sad when someone who is not as reputable
tries to tarnish a character like Phantom/Tech.
Mr. Young - Tim would want you to believe that all 50-plus members in
the history of the A.W.F. are working a mass conspiracy to protect
Tony. That would be absurd. The reality is that Tim is trying to
salvage his own reputation by tearing down Tony's.
Mr. Tech - Look, Tim will probably forever think that there is some
mass conspiracy to protect my reputation in the A.W.F. The fact is
though, I take more pride in my accomplishments recognized by outside
organizations than by my Title reigns. Recognition by American
Wrestling Federation Magazine, recognition by the American Wrestling
Federation Fan Club and The Jack McQuire Memorial Group. These
outside agencies have given me accolades and honors that few others
have earned.
Mr. Young - That's true. Caleb is a two-time JMSA (Jack McQuire
Sportsmanship Award - ed. note) and Tony is the only three-time
awardee. But those are the kinds of awards and accolades that Tim
will never know, because he is NOT a sportsman by any stretch of the
imagination.
Mr. Tech - Better be careful, he'll probably create his own
"sportsmanship" group just to give himself an award.
Mr. Young - Given Tim's reputation, maybe we should get a pool
started? (all laugh)
A.W.F.M. - Mr. Young, you have either been stating "no comment" or
outwardly hostile when Mr. Balderramos and his AWF are mentioned.
Care to get what is bothering you off your chest?
Mr. Beagle - (chuckles to himself and looks at Mr. Young)
Mr. Tech - This ought to be good.
Mr. Young - When Tony told me about Tim's reaction to my official
statement, and that Tim starting questioning my integrity, I lost all
respect for Tim. I have been fair and impartial despite everything
and he has the gall to make those kinds of statements about me. Maybe
my theory was right; maybe Tim did a deliberate knee drop to get back
at Tony.
Mr. Tech - Oh, I forgot to mention that she was only his "valet".
Mr. Young - His valet? Who is he kidding? She never escorted Tim to
the ring. In fact, I remember several matches where she was moving
away from him or flinching when he cornered her. Valet, my @$$!! Tim
was [practically stalking] her while she was dating you. I
remember reading the notes he left her - about waiting outside Tony's
apartment and watching the two of you leave. Give me a break! I
guess it doesn't pay to be nice or soft-pedal things around Tim, he
just doesn't get it. Tim, the gloves are off; I tried being nice with
you. I shouldn't have agreed with Tony about dropping the match to
give you the Title; but I can see that was a mistake."
A.W.F.M. - You've made a couple references to dropping a match. Would
you explain this?
Mr. Beagle - I'll let them do it.
Mr. Tech - After months of Tim complaining about not getting a "fair"
match, I spoke with Mike about maybe dropping the A.W.F. World Title
to Tim and see how he does as champion. Mike was hesitant but agreed.
We hadn't had any matches with a predetermined winner at that point.
At the end of the match, Tim used his Full Nelson move again. And
again, he was not getting a submission. To help Tim, I flipped over
into an arch position so that I would be in a pinning position and
Mike made the three-count.
Mr. Young - Yeah, up until today I think only four or five people knew
or figured it out that the match was deliberately dropped. The
problem came later when Tim admitted wearing the gut-buster, forcing
me to reverse the decision for a foreign object.
A.W.F.M. - So this was the first predetermined winner. Have there
been other matches?
Mr. Young - A few, but not all matches have ended the way they were
supposed to. Crusader was supposed to beat THE BEHEMOTH in an I-C
Title defense, but when Ben's manager kicked THE BEHEMOTH when he was
outside the ring, Crusader was disqualified and lost the Title. THE
BEHEMOTH didn't want to be a regular competitor so he planned to drop
the I-C Title on his next match, which was against a very young C.D.
Destroyer.
Mr. Beagle - Depending on the matches held on what basis, yes there
have been predetermined conclusions to matches we have held. I will
give you an example, as Mr. Tech and myself worked with newer or
younger members of the A.W.F. we did have scripted matches. This was
done so that they would get a better understanding on "real time
speed" of matches and how to correctly take falls and things of that
nature. We generally do not video these matches as they are closely
monitored while in progress. We want our members to be very
knowledgeable about everything that happens in the ring. I will
clarify that while I have heard that some matches have been "rigged",
I personally have no knowledge of any Title matches that have been
done in this matter at the time that they took place. Also I want to
clarify that as long as I have been President of our A.W.F. I have not
sanctioned ANY scripted or "rigged" Title matches. I believe
that
because of the integrity of our Federation and the Titles they
represent that all Title matches must be wrestled live and with
nothing more than the skills of the participants.
Mr. Tech - Let me emphasize though, that most matches are legitimate
contests. Because of real-world commitments sometimes we've had to
adjust how we would end certain matches. Not that it always worked
out that way, though. (all laugh)
A.W.F.M. - So if Tim is not the first person to get a win, legitimate
or otherwise, over Tony, who is?
Mr. Beagle - As far as I have been informed and through my own
research, I believe the first loss "Phantom" had was during a Battle
Royal Pit Match to C.D. Destroyer. This win however, was not a 1-on-1
match. There were a few competitors involved and I believe we all knew
the importance of "throwing Phantom out".
Mr. Tech - Yeah, I'm thinking my first legitimate loss was to Caleb
"C.D. Destroyer" Beagle at the.... what, 4th Devil's Challenge©?
Mr. Young - Well, that match wasn't actually a Devil's Challenge©
match. That was actually an in-the-pit battle royal.
A.W.F.M. - Let's say for arguments sake that C.D. Destroyer is the
current A.W.F. World Champion. Would you accept a challenge from Tim
for the Title? What about a non-title, exhibition match? What about
for complete control of the American Wrestling Federation and its
history?
Mr. Beagle - ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!! Well, if this is to be taken as an
official challenge from T.A. Starfire to C.D. Destroyer then I would
accept immediately. I would, of course, have the A.W.F. Senior Board
(excluding myself of course) set the conditions of the match. For me
personally I would never hesitate to step into a squared circle
against any person who throws a challenge. Be damn interesting to see
what Tim says to that, huh fellas?
Mr. Tech - A Title or non-Title match would be acceptable, to me.
However, I don't believe that after Tim loses to Caleb that he would
quit his plagiarism nor his futile attempts to "own" us. I'm not
sure
what the current A.W.F. Senior Board will say about this.
Mr. Young - Tim won't do it. He has nothing to gain. He can't beat
Caleb.
A.W.F.M. - Mr. Balderramos stated in a message to Mr. Tech:
To the “challenge” regarding my doing a “reenactment” of the end of
the “knee drop” match: With ALL respect that has to be one of the
most asinine requests I have ever heard. So what I am hearing is
this: You want me to purposely fall out of a ring WITH another person
in an attempt to re-create an alleged groin injury?!? Your disregard
for safety in the name of making a point is alarming at best.
At any rate, why would producing such a reenactment be a prerequisite
for your posting the original video?? If you listen to the podcasts,
I reference the account of the end of that match sufficiently enough
for you to test your “theory.”
From where I sit, you once again move away from talking to the issues
and try to play a game of “gotcha.” Let’s assume for argument’s sake
that I did produce said reenactment, your “theory” being that it would
not be identical to the original. Well of COURSE it’s not going to be
identical! Are you really serious here?!? Remember that T.A.
Starfire in that time was about185 pounds of solid muscle. While I’m
flattered that you’d think me a possible “stand-in” in the here and
now, I’m forced to admit that I’m not.
But I’m willing to guess that you’ll “stick to your guns” in
requiring a reenactment and try to “flip this” back on me. But again,
there’s no tangible purpose for are-enactment. It follows, then, that
anything you are using as an excuse not to put the video up is nothing
more than an excuse. Meanwhile, you appear to go back to your “old
ways” in order to prevent certain facts, etc. from being revealed.
Mr. Tech - Let me get this. What I sent was this:
"Also, there is a direct request for Mr. Balderramos to provide a
video showing what he believes happened during the knee drop match.
Mr. Balderramos has stated repeatedly that he (a.k.a. T.A. Starfire)
and Mr. Tech (a.k.a. Phantom) were falling out of the ring when the
knee drop to the groin occurred. Mr. Balderramos, our challenge to
you is to make a short video showing what you believed happened. We
will then show the original video. It is our theory that these two
videos will NOT be identical and that it will demonstrate that Mr.
Balderramos' recall of the event is incorrect."
I did not tell Tim that he had participate in the video. I just
asked him to provide a video: he could get volunteers, other actors
perhaps, to demonstrate the scene. Or he could make an animated
video. I am sure there are other options as well. This is, yet
again, Tim misreading or misinterpreting simple statements.
Now, to accuse me of not thinking of safety first, that is ludicrous.
One of the first things that I teach our younger competitors is
safety first. We don't need another T.A. Starfire/ T.J. Daring in the
A.W.F.
While you (Mr. Balderramos - ed. note) do reference the end of the
match often in your podcasts, it is not the same as "seeing" what you
are trying to explain. Given your hostility towards proper grammar
and the English language, we're not sure if you know what you are
saying about the end of that match.
If you think the only difference between the video requested and the
original video is you being, "... about185 pounds of solid muscle" you
are mistaken. The video, again, is to show what you think happened.
I don't care if you were to use The Great Khali and Big Show or two
kids; we are looking at the scenario, not the demonstrators.
And what "facts" are you talking about?? ("Meanwhile, you
appear to
go back to your “old ways” in order to prevent certain facts, etc.
from being revealed." - ed. note)
Tim, you said that when you were proven wrong, you'd would like to be
the first to admit it. Well, this is [your] chance to do so.
Mr. Beagle - First off, I have NEVER seen Mr. Balderramos "185lbs of
solid muscle". While I would admit that he wasn't completely
"solid
as a rock", he was in better than average shape. All of that, though,
is besides the point, Tim will never admit that what happened (and was
on video) is what he remembers happening.
Mr. Young - This sounds so much like in the past - whenever Tim is
"challenged" he backpedals faster than M.J. (Michael Jackson - ed.
note) doing the moonwalk.
A.W.F.M. - Mr. Balderramos asked, "...why Mr. Tech reneged on his
acceptance of my posting stuff on the internet."
Mr. Beagle - I have no comment on this.
Mr. Tech - You can't post things that violate YouTube's Privacy policy
or my copyright ownership. Even if you did have my permission, or
acceptance, which you didn't, I can withdraw that permission. Imagine
how you would feel if someone posted your basement video without your
permission.
Mr. Young - Was that the video that solidified his moniker of "Captain
Cliché"? I haven't seen that clip in years. That was both
funny and
pathetically sad at the same time. Funny, because he believes what he
is saying and pathetically sad because he really believes what he is
saying. (All laugh)
A.W.F.M. - (From Mr. Balderramos) " Are you [Mr. Tech - ed. note] and
Head Referee Mike Young stepping down from the Senior Board? If so,
who would you suggest as your successors?
Mr. Beagle - Again the Senior Board of the A.W.F., of which I am the
President, has already been posted in a previous email response. If
those positions change during an election than so be it but since that
time has not come yet I am once again not going to continue to repeat
myself.
Mr. Tech - I don't think I've been part of the A.W.F.'s Senior Board
in years. I might have been part of Tim's AWF Senior Board, but that
was awhile ago.
Mr. Young - I hold an emeritus status, so this would not apply to me
as I "stepped down" years ago. I think as a successor Tim should
go
with his usual "myself" and "I", since "me" is the
current AWF
President. (all laugh)
Mr. Tech - Don't use the word 'emeritus', Tim has trouble pronouncing it.
Mr. Beagle - Hey give Tim some credit, he at least knew what the word meant.
A.W.F.M. - (From Mr. Balderramos) If you had to pick one Board of
Appeal reversal to abide by, which one would it be?
Mr. Beagle - I am unsure of what you mean. The A.W.F. (held in South
Dakota which I am the President of and a member for quite a few years)
Board of Review (never has it been known as a Board of Appeal) has
always been understood as a final decision and not up to discussion.
So I am not quite sure what your asking.
Mr. Tech - (shakes head) Seriously? None of those 'reversals' apply
to this American Wrestling Federation. Maybe the Danger Ranger bribe
storyline those guys did....I have no idea.
Mr. Young - Never heard of a "Board of Appeal". That must
be some other group.
A.W.F.M. - Any closing comments?
Mr. Beagle - With everything constantly going back and forth, I truly
see no end to this dispute between our Federation and Tim's on-going
claim to ownership of our Federation. The best I can say is if Tim is
truly sole owner of the A.W.F. in South Dakota then he would have no
issues telling me when the last card was held, what Title defense took
place, how long each match was and who won each match. As I was
physically there, I actually know the answers to my questions. So by
all means let us see what lies he comes up with now.
Mr. Tech - Tim is free to continue his podcasts and other such
behaviors. However, anytime he violates copyright or privacy laws by
posting videos of A.W.F. matches, members and events, I will be there
to put a stop to it. I do know that if Tim continues to do this,
YouTube will eventually cancel his account.
Mr. Young - We still had one great question that has been unanswered:
Why does Tim want us in his group? Tim, some friendly advice:
let
it go. You cannot convince us of a history that did not happen, you
do not inspire us to want to work with you, and you are unable to
demonstrate any true leadership. Be grateful for what you have and
quit trying to claim something you never earned.
A.W.F.M. - Thank you for you time gentlemen.